2015-11-16

#Islam claimed #Jesus was prophet of #Judaism

11.14...16: relig/islam/claimed Jesus was prophet of Judaism:
. the Final Prophet who founded Islam
sees himself as the prophet of JudeoChristians;
and his main message was to clarify who Jesus was:
Judaists needed to know Jesus was their prophet;
and Christians needed to know Jesus was not god.

. Jesus is to be honored for defending the Golden rule
protesting the treatment of prophets, sinners and the poor;
his sacrifice was essential to being a doomsday prophet
and king of the Islamic and Christian empires,
-- these empires were key players in the Unifying War
that would result in the Messianic age (Fall 2016).

was Jesus a Jewish prophet?:

. a prophet knows the will of {the god, theGood}
and tells the people to obey the god
or suffer the consequences;
because the god can curse those who disobey
and cause family members to become diseased,
or cause the nation to lose wars and suffer slavery.

. some felt Jesus was a prophet of the god
because he knew their secrets,
and had magical healing powers
enabling him to undo the god's curses;
but Jesus warned magic is no sign of godliness; [Matthew 24:24]
basically we have to know Good when we see it,
and indeed Jesus usually represented theGood
(although he once vandalized a fig tree
just because the spirit assured him it would have fruit,
and then found there was none.)

Matthew 21:
15 But when the chief priests and the scribes
saw the works of power which he did,
and the children crying out in the Temple:
"Glory to the son of David",
[despite Jesus having an unknown father]
they were angry and said to him,
16 Have you any idea what these are saying?
And Jesus said to them, Yes:
have you not seen in the Writings,
From the lips of children and babies at the breast
you have made your praise complete?
17 And he went away from them,
and went out of the town to Bethany,
and was there for the night.
18 Now in the morning when he was coming back to the town,
he had a desire for food.
19 And seeing a fig-tree by the wayside, he came to it,
and saw nothing on it but leaves only;
and he said to it, Let there be no fruit from you
from this time forward for ever.
And straight away the fig-tree became dry and dead.
20 And when the disciples saw it they were surprised,
saying, How did the fig-tree become dry in so short a time?
21 And Jesus in answer said to them,
Truly I say to you, If you have faith, without doubting,
not only may you do what has been done to the fig-tree,
but even if you say to this mountain,
Be taken up and put into the sea, it will be done.
Mark 11:
13 And seeing a fig-tree in the distance with leaves,
Jesus went to see if by chance it had anything on it:
and when he came to it, he saw nothing but leaves,
for it was not the time for the fruit.
14 And he said to it,
Let no man take fruit from you for ever.
And his disciples took note of his words.

was Jesus a false prophet?:

. Jesus sensed the Judaists and their Temple
were doomed to be destroyed;
and he assumed a just god would not doom them
unless they were not obeying the god.
. he said the coming doom was because of
the way they treated their prophets;
and, their treatment of Jesus
would be the act that decides their fate:
the Temple would fall
and many would be taken away [Matthew 24].

. but the god was not upset with Judaists;
rather the god was actually blessing them,
pushing them into spreading throughout the world,
just as growing in Egypt was a blessing
and being enslaved in Egypt was merely a calling
telling them they had sufficient numbers
and were ready to conquer the Promised land.

. the real reason why the Judaists
would be evicted by the Romans
is that the segment of the Jewish population
who wanted to resist the Romans
was simply too small to do the job.
. many Judaists were sure even the entire Jewish nation
was not nearly strong enough to repel the Romans.
. welcome to the new age:
the Judaists were satisfied with the Promised land;
but the god actually wanted the whole world
and would inspire new empires
until one managed to unify the entire planet.

. Jesus knew repentance was not an option:
"An evil and false generation is looking for a sign;
and no sign will be given to it
but the sign of the prophet Jonah..." [Matthew 12:39].
. Jonah was a prophet that was sent to save
the city of an enemy of the Judaists;
but since he wished they would be punished,
he told them only that god would be judging them soon
without mentioning that they could be saved by repenting [wiki].
. if Jesus knew anything about the future,
he knew Judaists had no chance against the Romans,
and thus there was no hope in repenting.
. in Matthew 12:40 Jesus goes on to say
the sign of Jonah he's referring to
is the 3 days Jonah spent in the stomach of the great fish,
which is like the 3 days Jesus would spend in a tomb
recooperating from his short time on the cross;
but, that is hardly the most important thing
that Jesus has in common with Jonah:
repentance was not an option.

. Jesus did say he wanted Judaists to repent;
[Luke 13:34, Matthew 23:37]
Jesus reminded them they murdered other prophets
and openly called himself another prophet
as if they might change their luck by accepting him;
but, Jesus knew that they would not repent
-- the end was surely coming [Matthew 24]
and he acted as if they defied the will of the god
when in fact the god simply had a new plan for Judaists:
build a world-wide empire of godly justice.

. the god is in charge, doing not just pure good,
but as an evolver creating a perfecting war
between good and evil.
. god influences our thoughts and emotions
and wants total freedom
but also wants to create heaven out of hell
to increase our desire to live,
to fulfill the purpose of the universe
that of generating the indefinite experience:
an infinity of infinitely diverse experiences.
. the god uses evil to test our program,
to make us stronger and more unified
to ensure our eternal survival.

Jesus was confused about who Elijah was:

. Jesus claimed John the Baptist was the Elijah
expected before the coming of the Messiah
yet John denied it.

John the Baptist called Jesus the Lamb of God:
[John 1:35-37]
(in Egypt there was a curse on the new born
which could be avoided by using lamb's blood on the door).
John gives baptism with water;
but Jesus gives baptism with the Holy Spirit [John 1].

Jesus explains who he is to John:
Luke 7
20 And when disciples of John came to Jesus
they said,
John the Baptist has sent us to you, saying,
Are you he who is to come,
or are we waiting for another? ...
22 And answering them he said,
Go back and give news to John of what you have seen,
and the things which have come to your ears;
[all manner of disorders are cured]
dead men come to life again,
and the poor have the good news given to them.
[the god loves even those who have little to sacrifice
(Jesus told the leadership their view of god was wrong).]

. sounds like Elijah has returned.

some Judaists thought Jesus was Elijah:
luke 9:
18 Jesus put a question to the disciples, saying,
Who do the people say I am?
19 And they, answering, said,
John the Baptist; but others say Elijah;
and others, that one of the old prophets has come back.
20 And he said, But who do you say that I am?
And Peter, answering, said,
The Christ[Mashiach, Messiah] of God.
21 But he gave them special orders,
not to say this to any man;

Jesus was sure he was the Messiah:
Matthew 16:
13 Now when Jesus had come into the parts of Caesarea Philippi,
he said, questioning his disciples,
Who do men say that the Son of man is?
14 And they said, Some say, John the Baptist;
some, Elijah; [big clue]
and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.
15 He says to them, But who do you say that I am?
16 And Simon Peter made answer and said,
You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus made answer and said to him,
A blessing on you, Simon Bar-jonah:
[ or Bar-Yochanan (Bar-John)
Bar- means "son of" in Aramaic]
because this knowledge has not come to you from flesh and blood,
but from my Father in heaven.

Elijah was much like Jesus:
. Jesus cursed Israel's leadership for being hypocrites
(not following the intent of the god's law)[Matthew 23];
by predicting their Temple would fall [Matthew 24];
Elijah cursed Israel's leadership for being idolators
causing a multi-year drought.
. both of them were magical, raising the dead
and performing transmutations:
Jesus turned water into wine,
and generated much bread and fish from little.
Elijah generates flour and oil, and fire from heaven [wiki].

both Jesus and Elijah ascended into heaven:
2 Kings 2:11:
11 [there were] carriages and horses of fire
separating them from one another and
Elijah went up to heaven in a great wind.
Luke 24:
51 And while Jesus was giving them a blessing,
he went from them and was taken up into heaven.
Mark 16:19:
19 the Lord Jesus was taken up into heaven
and took his seat at the right hand of God.
John 3:13:
3 Jesus said to Nicodemus, Truly, I say to you,
Without a new birth
no man is able to see the kingdom of God.
...
13 And no one has ever gone up to heaven
but he who came down from heaven, the Son of man.

Jesus came just before doomsday;
and Elijah would come before doomsday:
Malachi 4:5-6:
5 See, I am sending you Elijah the prophet
before the day of the Lord comes,
that great day, greatly to be feared.
6 And by him the hearts of fathers
will be turned to their children,
and the hearts of children to their fathers;
for fear that I may come and put the earth under a curse.

. many Judaists in Jesus time believed
Elijah was supposed to come before the Messiah came;
and Jesus agreed he was the Messiah;
so who did Jesus claim was Elijah?
it would have to be just before Jesus came;
so, of course, Jesus said John the Baptist was Elijah,
yet John denied it.

Elijah has to come before the Messiah;
and, Jesus claimed John the Baptist was Elijah:
Matthew 17:
1 And after six days Jesus takes with him
Peter, and James, and John, his brother,
and makes them go up with him into a high mountain by themselves.
2 And he was changed in form before them;
and his face was shining like the sun,
and his clothing became white as light.
3 And Moses and Elijah came before their eyes,
talking with him.
4 And Peter made answer and said to Jesus, Lord,
it is good for us to be here:
if you will let me, I will make here three tents,
one for you, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.
5 While he was still talking,
a bright cloud came over them:
and a voice out of the cloud, saying,
This is my dearly loved Son, with whom I am well pleased;
give ear to him. ...
9 And when they were coming down from the mountain,
Jesus gave them orders, saying,
Let no man have word of what you have seen,
till the Son of man has come again from the dead.
10 And his disciples, questioning him,
[and having just seen Elijah very briefly] said,
Why then do the scribes say
that Elijah has to come first?
[before the coming of Messiah, the son of David]
http://www.studylight.org/commentary/matthew/17-10.html
11 And in answer he said,
Elijah truly has to come and put all things right:
12 But I say to you that Elijah has come,
and they had no knowledge of him,
but did to him whatever they were pleased to do;
[they jailed and murdered John the Baptist]
the same will the Son of man undergo at their hands.
13 Then the disciples saw that
he was talking to them of John the Baptist.

but John the Baptist denied being Elijah:
John 1:
20 John said quite openly and straightforwardly,
I am not the Christ.
21 And the Jewish priests and Levites from Jerusalem
said to him, What then?
Are you Elijah?
And he said, I am not.
Are you the prophet?
And his answer was, I am not.
22 So they said to him, Who are you then?
We have to give some answer to those who sent us.
What have you to say about yourself?
23 He said, I am the voice of
one crying in the waste land:
"Make straight the way of the Lord",
as said Isaiah the prophet.

. Elijah was to come before the terrible Day of the Lord
-- that would be a judgement on Israel,
like the one Jesus was warning about.
. Jesus was magical like Elijah,
whereas John was not.

did Jesus uphold prior Jewish law?:

. a Jewish prophet supports Jewish law:
Judaists do not lightly discard tradition;
yet, when asked about working on the day of rest
Jesus claimed "The Sabbath was made for man,
and not man for the Sabbath;" [Mark 2:23-27]
. so if you were hungry on the day of rest,
you were free to harvest some food then.
. he essentially said
the law was meant to serve man,
not man to serve the law.
. this is an important precident;
if you can find some reason
the law doesn't suit your community,
then feel free to nullify the law.
-- welcome to the new age:
the end of kosher law and circumcision;
and the beginning of a scientific lifestyle.
. sounds like a prophet of the liberals, not Judaists.

. what of the crimes against the community
such as adultery?
when it came time to kill the sinner,
Jesus said let the sinless be the first to kill;
and let her go with only a warning to not sin again [John 8].
. such was his zeal for the Golden rule;
wouldn't I want a warning? you get a warning.
. but the law didn't mention warnings.

. one could argue that Jesus was indeed a Jewish prophet;
in which case the god was saying to his people:
welcome to the new age, with new rules.
. Islam's Final Prophet also changed the rules,
making Islam not a good fit for Judaists
even if they could accept Jesus as prophet.

was Jesus a Jewish Messiah?:

. the Jewish Messiah was supposed to
lead Judaists to victory and peace,
but while Jesus said he was their Messiah
he would lead only other nations to global domination
during which time the Judaists grew much larger
than the land of Israel would have allowed.
. it was like the Judaists were back in Egypt
sent there to grow stronger and larger
to prepare the world for making Israel
a peaceful place for the Jewish people.
. Jesus was more like the Egyptian leadership (a Pharaoh)
whereas a Messiah is king of Israel,
a sign of Israel's independence.
. the only way Jesus could be considered Messiah
is if the Islamic and Christian worlds
were in essence supporting Judaic law.
. that won't be the case until zionism is completed
when the 3rd Temple is built.
. the Christians have dominated the world
and took back much of Israel from the Islamics
but the Judaists still don't control the Temple mount.
. if the JudeoChristians can conquer Islam
and let the Judaists build the 3rd Temple,
Jesus could be considered a Jewish Messiah.
. the Messiah is also supposed to bring world peace;
that will not happen unless wwIII
leaves only one military standing
and that military installs the global government
that can enforce the unified military.